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Bug 1217007 - Remove nodes without any content, r=Gijs

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Evan Tseng 7 years ago committed by Gijs
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}
}
// Remove empty DIV, SECTION, and HEADER nodes
// Remove DIV, SECTION, and HEADER nodes without any content(e.g. text, image, video, or iframe).
if ((node.tagName === "DIV" || node.tagName === "SECTION" || node.tagName === "HEADER" ||
node.tagName === "H1" || node.tagName === "H2" || node.tagName === "H3" ||
node.tagName === "H4" || node.tagName === "H5" || node.tagName === "H6") &&
this._isEmptyElement(node)) {
this._isElementWithoutContent(node)) {
node = this._removeAndGetNext(node);
continue;
}
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});
},
_isEmptyElement: function(node) {
_isElementWithoutContent: function(node) {
return node.nodeType === Node.ELEMENT_NODE &&
node.children.length == 0 &&
node.textContent.trim().length == 0;
node.textContent.trim().length == 0 &&
(node.children.length == 0 ||
node.children.length == node.getElementsByTagName("br").length + node.getElementsByTagName("hr").length);
},
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<div class="section-inner layoutSingleColumn">
<h2 name="3c62" id="3c62" data-align="center" class="graf--h2">Open Journalism Project:</h2>
<h4 name="425a" id="425a" data-align="center" class="graf--h4"><em class="markup--em markup--h4-em">Better Student Journalism</em></h4>
<h4 name="08db" id="08db" class="graf--h4 graf--empty"><br/></h4>
<p name="d178" id="d178" class="graf--p">We pushed out the first version of the <a href="http://pippinlee.github.io/open-journalism-project/" data-href="http://pippinlee.github.io/open-journalism-project/" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow">Open Journalism site</a> in January. Our goal is for the site to be a place to teach students what they should know about journalism on the web. It should be fun too.</p>
<p name="01ed" id="01ed" class="graf--p">Topics like <a href="http://pippinlee.github.io/open-journalism-project/Mapping/" data-href="http://pippinlee.github.io/open-journalism-project/Mapping/" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow">mapping</a>, <a href="http://pippinlee.github.io/open-journalism-project/Security/" data-href="http://pippinlee.github.io/open-journalism-project/Security/" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow">security</a>, command line tools, and <a href="http://pippinlee.github.io/open-journalism-project/Open-source/" data-href="http://pippinlee.github.io/open-journalism-project/Open-source/" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow">open source</a> are all concepts that should be made more accessible, and should be easily understood at a basic level by all journalists. We’re focusing on students because we know student journalism well, and we believe that teaching maturing journalists about the web will provide them with an important lens to view the world with. This is how we got to where we are now.</p>
<h3 name="0348" id="0348" class="graf--h3">Circa 2011</h3>

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<div id="readability-page-1" class="page">
<div class="section-content">
<div class="section-inner layoutSingleColumn">
<figure name="4924" id="4924" class="graf--figure graf--first">
<div class="aspectRatioPlaceholder is-locked"><img class="graf-image" data-image-id="1*eR_J8DurqygbhrwDg-WPnQ.png" data-width="1891" data-height="1280" data-action="zoom" data-action-value="1*eR_J8DurqygbhrwDg-WPnQ.png" src="https://d262ilb51hltx0.cloudfront.net/max/1600/1*eR_J8DurqygbhrwDg-WPnQ.png"/></div>
<figcaption class="imageCaption">Words need defenders.</figcaption>
</figure>
<h3 name="b098" id="b098" class="graf--h3">On Behalf of “Literally”</h3>
<p name="1a73" id="1a73" class="graf--p">You either are a “literally” abuser or know of one. If you’re anything like me, hearing the word “literally” used incorrectly causes a little piece of your soul to whither and die. Of course I do not mean that literally, I mean that figuratively. An abuser would have said: “Every time a person uses that word, a piece of my soul literally withers and dies.” Which is terribly, horribly wrong.</p>
<p name="104a" id="104a" class="graf--p">For whatever bizarre reason, people feel the need to use literally as a sort of verbal crutch. They use it to emphasize a point, which is silly because they’re already using an analogy or a metaphor to illustrate said point. For example: “Ugh, I literally tore the house apart looking for my remote control!” No, you literally did not tear apart your house, because it’s still standing. If you’d just told me you “tore your house apart” searching for your remote, I would’ve understood what you meant. No need to add “literally” to the sentence.</p>
<p name="c2c0" id="c2c0" class="graf--p">Maybe I should define literally.</p>
<blockquote name="b239" id="b239" class="graf--pullquote pullquote">Literally means actually. When you say something literally happened, you’re describing the scene or situation as it actually happened.</blockquote>
<p name="a8fd" id="a8fd" class="graf--p">So you should only use literally when you mean it. It should not be used in hyperbole. Example: “That was so funny I literally cried.” Which is possible. Some things are funny enough to elicit tears. Note the example stops with “literally cried.” You cannot <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">literally cry your eyes out</em>. The joke wasn’t so funny your eyes popped out of their sockets.</p>
<h4 name="165a" id="165a" class="graf--h4">When in Doubt, Leave it Out</h4>
<p name="e434" id="e434" class="graf--p graf--startsWithDoubleQuote">“I’m so hungry I could eat a horse,” means you’re hungry. You don’t need to say “I’m so hungry I could literally eat a horse.” Because you can’t do that in one sitting, I don’t care how big your stomach is.</p>
<p name="d88f" id="d88f" class="graf--p graf--startsWithDoubleQuote">“That play was so funny I laughed my head off,” illustrates the play was amusing. You don’t need to say you literally laughed your head off, because then your head would be on the ground and you wouldn’t be able to speak, much less laugh.</p>
<p name="4bab" id="4bab" class="graf--p graf--startsWithDoubleQuote">“I drove so fast my car was flying,” we get your point: you were speeding. But your car is never going fast enough to fly, so don’t say your car was literally flying.</p>
<h4 name="f2f0" id="f2f0" class="graf--h4">Insecurities?</h4>
<p name="1bd7" id="1bd7" class="graf--p">Maybe no one believed a story you told as a child, and you felt the need to prove that it actually happened. <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">No really, mom, I literally climbed the tree. </em>In efforts to prove truth, you used literally to describe something real, however outlandish it seemed. Whatever the reason, now your overuse of literally has become a habit.</p>
<h4 name="d7c1" id="d7c1" class="graf--h4">Hard Habit to Break?</h4>
<p name="714b" id="714b" class="graf--p">Abusing literally isn’t as bad a smoking, but it’s still an unhealthy habit (I mean that figuratively). Help is required in order to break it.</p>
<p name="f929" id="f929" class="graf--p">This is my version of an intervention for literally abusers. I’m not sure how else to do it other than in writing. I know this makes me sound like a know-it-all, and I accept that. But there’s no excuse other than blatant ignorance to misuse the word “literally.” So just stop it.</p>
<p name="fd19" id="fd19" class="graf--p">Don’t say “Courtney, this post is so snobbish it literally burned up my computer.” Because nothing is that snobbish that it causes computers to combust. Or: “Courtney, your head is so big it literally cannot get through the door.” Because it can, unless it’s one of those tiny doors from <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">Alice in Wonderland</em> and I need to eat a mushroom to make my whole body smaller.</p>
<h4 name="fe12" id="fe12" class="graf--h4">No One’s Perfect</h4>
<p name="7ff8" id="7ff8" class="graf--p">And I’m not saying I am. I’m trying to restore meaning to a word that’s lost meaning. I’m standing up for literally. It’s a good word when used correctly. People are butchering it and destroying it every day (figuratively speaking) and the massacre needs to stop. Just as there’s a coalition of people against the use of certain fonts (like <a href="http://bancomicsans.com/main/?page_id=2" data-href="http://bancomicsans.com/main/?page_id=2" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow">Comic Sans</a> and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=14448723154" data-href="https://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=14448723154" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow">Papyrus</a>), so should there be a coalition of people against the abuse of literally.</p>
<h4 name="049e" id="049e" class="graf--h4">Saying it to Irritate?</h4>
<p name="9381" id="9381" class="graf--p">Do you misuse the word “literally” just to annoy your know-it-all or grammar police friends/acquaintances/total strangers? If so, why? Doing so would be like me going outside when it’s freezing, wearing nothing but a pair of shorts and t-shirt in hopes of making you cold by just looking at me. Who suffers more?</p>
<h4 name="3e52" id="3e52" class="graf--h4">Graphical Representation</h4>
<p name="b57e" id="b57e" class="graf--p graf--last">Matthew Inman of “The Oatmeal” wrote a comic about literally. Abusers and defenders alike <a href="http://theoatmeal.com/comics/literally" data-href="http://theoatmeal.com/comics/literally" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow">should check it out</a>. It’s clear this whole craze about literally is driving a lot of us nuts. You literally abusers are killing off pieces of our souls. You must be stopped, or the world will be lost to meaninglessness forever. Figuratively speaking.</p>
<section name="d9f8" class=" section--first">
<div class="section-content">
<div class="section-inner layoutSingleColumn">
<figure name="4924" id="4924" class="graf--figure graf--first">
<div class="aspectRatioPlaceholder is-locked"><img class="graf-image" data-image-id="1*eR_J8DurqygbhrwDg-WPnQ.png" data-width="1891" data-height="1280" data-action="zoom" data-action-value="1*eR_J8DurqygbhrwDg-WPnQ.png" src="https://d262ilb51hltx0.cloudfront.net/max/1600/1*eR_J8DurqygbhrwDg-WPnQ.png"/></div>
<figcaption class="imageCaption">Words need defenders.</figcaption>
</figure>
<h3 name="b098" id="b098" class="graf--h3">On Behalf of “Literally”</h3>
<p name="1a73" id="1a73" class="graf--p">You either are a “literally” abuser or know of one. If you’re anything like me, hearing the word “literally” used incorrectly causes a little piece of your soul to whither and die. Of course I do not mean that literally, I mean that figuratively. An abuser would have said: “Every time a person uses that word, a piece of my soul literally withers and dies.” Which is terribly, horribly wrong.</p>
<p name="104a" id="104a" class="graf--p">For whatever bizarre reason, people feel the need to use literally as a sort of verbal crutch. They use it to emphasize a point, which is silly because they’re already using an analogy or a metaphor to illustrate said point. For example: “Ugh, I literally tore the house apart looking for my remote control!” No, you literally did not tear apart your house, because it’s still standing. If you’d just told me you “tore your house apart” searching for your remote, I would’ve understood what you meant. No need to add “literally” to the sentence.</p>
<p name="c2c0" id="c2c0" class="graf--p">Maybe I should define literally.</p>
<blockquote name="b239" id="b239" class="graf--pullquote pullquote">Literally means actually. When you say something literally happened, you’re describing the scene or situation as it actually happened.</blockquote>
<p name="a8fd" id="a8fd" class="graf--p">So you should only use literally when you mean it. It should not be used in hyperbole. Example: “That was so funny I literally cried.” Which is possible. Some things are funny enough to elicit tears. Note the example stops with “literally cried.” You cannot <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">literally cry your eyes out</em>. The joke wasn’t so funny your eyes popped out of their sockets.</p>
<h4 name="165a" id="165a" class="graf--h4">When in Doubt, Leave it Out</h4>
<p name="e434" id="e434" class="graf--p graf--startsWithDoubleQuote">“I’m so hungry I could eat a horse,” means you’re hungry. You don’t need to say “I’m so hungry I could literally eat a horse.” Because you can’t do that in one sitting, I don’t care how big your stomach is.</p>
<p name="d88f" id="d88f" class="graf--p graf--startsWithDoubleQuote">“That play was so funny I laughed my head off,” illustrates the play was amusing. You don’t need to say you literally laughed your head off, because then your head would be on the ground and you wouldn’t be able to speak, much less laugh.</p>
<p name="4bab" id="4bab" class="graf--p graf--startsWithDoubleQuote">“I drove so fast my car was flying,” we get your point: you were speeding. But your car is never going fast enough to fly, so don’t say your car was literally flying.</p>
<h4 name="f2f0" id="f2f0" class="graf--h4">Insecurities?</h4>
<p name="1bd7" id="1bd7" class="graf--p">Maybe no one believed a story you told as a child, and you felt the need to prove that it actually happened. <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">No really, mom, I literally climbed the tree. </em>In efforts to prove truth, you used literally to describe something real, however outlandish it seemed. Whatever the reason, now your overuse of literally has become a habit.</p>
<h4 name="d7c1" id="d7c1" class="graf--h4">Hard Habit to Break?</h4>
<p name="714b" id="714b" class="graf--p">Abusing literally isn’t as bad a smoking, but it’s still an unhealthy habit (I mean that figuratively). Help is required in order to break it.</p>
<p name="f929" id="f929" class="graf--p">This is my version of an intervention for literally abusers. I’m not sure how else to do it other than in writing. I know this makes me sound like a know-it-all, and I accept that. But there’s no excuse other than blatant ignorance to misuse the word “literally.” So just stop it.</p>
<p name="fd19" id="fd19" class="graf--p">Don’t say “Courtney, this post is so snobbish it literally burned up my computer.” Because nothing is that snobbish that it causes computers to combust. Or: “Courtney, your head is so big it literally cannot get through the door.” Because it can, unless it’s one of those tiny doors from <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">Alice in Wonderland</em> and I need to eat a mushroom to make my whole body smaller.</p>
<h4 name="fe12" id="fe12" class="graf--h4">No One’s Perfect</h4>
<p name="7ff8" id="7ff8" class="graf--p">And I’m not saying I am. I’m trying to restore meaning to a word that’s lost meaning. I’m standing up for literally. It’s a good word when used correctly. People are butchering it and destroying it every day (figuratively speaking) and the massacre needs to stop. Just as there’s a coalition of people against the use of certain fonts (like <a href="http://bancomicsans.com/main/?page_id=2" data-href="http://bancomicsans.com/main/?page_id=2" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow">Comic Sans</a> and <a href="https://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=14448723154" data-href="https://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=14448723154" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow">Papyrus</a>), so should there be a coalition of people against the abuse of literally.</p>
<h4 name="049e" id="049e" class="graf--h4">Saying it to Irritate?</h4>
<p name="9381" id="9381" class="graf--p">Do you misuse the word “literally” just to annoy your know-it-all or grammar police friends/acquaintances/total strangers? If so, why? Doing so would be like me going outside when it’s freezing, wearing nothing but a pair of shorts and t-shirt in hopes of making you cold by just looking at me. Who suffers more?</p>
<h4 name="3e52" id="3e52" class="graf--h4">Graphical Representation</h4>
<p name="b57e" id="b57e" class="graf--p graf--last">Matthew Inman of “The Oatmeal” wrote a comic about literally. Abusers and defenders alike <a href="http://theoatmeal.com/comics/literally" data-href="http://theoatmeal.com/comics/literally" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow">should check it out</a>. It’s clear this whole craze about literally is driving a lot of us nuts. You literally abusers are killing off pieces of our souls. You must be stopped, or the world will be lost to meaninglessness forever. Figuratively speaking.</p>
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{
"title": "Samantha and The Great Big Lie – John C. Welch – Medium",
"byline": "John C. Welch",
"dir": null,
"excerpt": "(EDIT: removed the link to Samantha’s post, because the arments and the grubers and the rest of The Deck Clique got what they wanted: a non-proper person driven off the internet lightly capped with a…",
"readerable": true
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<section name="55ff" class="section section--body section--first">
<div class="section-content">
<div class="section-inner sectionLayout--insetColumn">
<p name="97e7" id="97e7" class="graf graf--p graf-after--h3">How to get shanked doing what people say they want</p>
<blockquote name="df70" id="df70" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">don’t preach to me<br/>Mr. integrity</blockquote>
<p name="c979" id="c979" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">(EDIT: removed the link to Samantha’s post, because the arments and the grubers and the rest of The Deck Clique got what they wanted: a non-proper person driven off the internet lightly capped with a dusting of transphobia along the way, all totally okay because the ends justify the means, and it’s okay when “good” people do it.)</p>
<p name="342d" id="342d" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">First, I need to say something about this article: the reason I’m writing it infuriates me. Worse than installing CS 3 or Acrobat 7 ever did, and the former inspired comparisons to fecophile porn. I’m actually too mad to cuss. Well, not completely, but in this case, I don’t think the people I’m mad at are worth the creativity I try to put into profanity. This is about a brownfield of hypocrisy and viciously deliberate mischaracterization that “shame” cannot even come close to the shame those behind it should feel.</p>
<p name="2e61" id="2e61" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Now, read this post by Samantha Bielefeld: The Elephant in the Room. First, it is a well-written critical piece that raises a few points in a calm, rational, nonconfrontational fashion, exactly the kind of things the pushers of The Great Big Lie say we need more of, as opposed to the screaming that is the norm in such cases.</p>
<p name="cd31" id="cd31" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">…sorry, I should explain “The Great Big Lie”. There are several, but in this case, our <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">specific</em> instance of “The Great Big Lie” is about criticism. Over and over, you hear from the very people I am not going to be nice to in this that we need “better” criticsm. Instead of rage and anger, volume and vitriol, we need in-depth rational criticism, that isn’t personal or ad hominem. That it should focus on points, not people.</p>
<p name="ae07" id="ae07" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p graf--trailing">That, readers, is “The Big Lie”. It is a lie so big that if one ponders the reality of it, as I am going to, one wonders why anyone would believe it. It is a lie and it is one we should stop telling.</p>
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<p name="a02f" id="a02f" class="graf graf--p graf--leading">Samantha’s points (I assume you read it, for you are smart people who know the importance of such things) are fairly clear:</p>
<ol class="postList">
<li name="9213" id="9213" class="graf graf--li graf-after--p">With the release of Overcast 2.0, a product Samantha actually likes, Marco Arment moved to a <a href="http://www.marco.org/2015/10/09/overcast2" data-href="http://www.marco.org/2015/10/09/overcast2" class="markup--anchor markup--li-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">patronage model</a> that will probably be successful for him.</li>
<li name="dfa5" id="dfa5" class="graf graf--li graf-after--li">Arment’s insistence that “<a href="https://medium.com/@marcoarment/pragmatic-app-pricing-a79fc07218f3" data-href="https://medium.com/@marcoarment/pragmatic-app-pricing-a79fc07218f3" class="markup--anchor markup--li-anchor" target="_blank">anyone can do this</a>” while technically true, (anyone can in fact, implement this pricing model), also implies that “anyone” can have the kind of success that a developer with Marco’s history, financial status, and deep ties to the Apple News Web is expected to have. This is silly.</li>
<li name="e55d" id="e55d" class="graf graf--li graf-after--li">Marco Arment occupies a fairly unique position in the Apple universe, (gained by hard work and no small talent), and because of that, benefits from a set of privileges that a new developer or even one that has been around for a long time, but isn’t, well, <em class="markup--em markup--li-em">Marco</em>, not only don’t have, but have little chance of attaining anytime soon.</li>
<li name="35fb" id="35fb" class="graf graf--li graf-after--li">Marco has earned his success and is entitled to the benefits and privileges it brings, but he seems rather blind to all of that, and seems to still imagine himself as “two guys in a garage”. This is just not correct.</li>
<li name="38e2" id="38e2" class="graf graf--li graf-after--li">In addition, the benefits and privileges of the above ensure that by releasing Overcast 2 as a free app, with patronage pricing, he has, if not gutted, severely hurt the ability of folks actually selling their apps for an up-front price of not free to continue doing so. This has the effect of accelerating the “race to the bottom” in the podcast listening app segment, which hurts devs who cannot afford to work on a “I don’t really need this money, so whatever you feel like sending is okay” model.</li>
</ol>
<p name="0481" id="0481" class="graf graf--p graf-after--li">None of this is incorrect. None of this is an ad hominem attack in any way. It is just pointing out that a developer of Arment’s stature and status lives in a very different world than someone in East Frog Balls, Arkansas trying to make a living off of App sales. Our dev in EFB doesn’t have the main sites on the Apple web falling all over themselves to review their app the way that Arment does. They’re not friends with the people being The Loop, Daring Fireball, SixColors, iMore, The Mac Observer, etc., yadda.</p>
<p name="5a45" id="5a45" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">So, our hero, in a fit of well-meaning ignorance writes this piece (posted this morning, 14 Oct. 15) and of course, the response and any criticisms are just as reasonable and thoughtful.</p>
<p name="3bc7" id="3bc7" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p graf--trailing">If you really believe that, you are the most preciously ignorant person in the world, and can I have your seriously charmed life.</p>
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<p name="0fb2" id="0fb2" class="graf graf--p graf--leading">The response, from all quarters, including Marco, someone who is so sensitive to criticism that the word “useless” is <a href="http://www.marco.org/2011/03/30/here-is-a-tip-for-all-the-non-developers-out" data-href="http://www.marco.org/2011/03/30/here-is-a-tip-for-all-the-non-developers-out" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">enough to shut him down</a>, who <a href="https://twitter.com/marcoarment/status/641330113934700544" data-href="https://twitter.com/marcoarment/status/641330113934700544" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">blocked a friend of mine for the high crime of pointing out that his review of podcasting mics centered around higher priced gear and ignored folks without the scratch, who might not be ready for such things</a>, is, in a single word, disgusting. Vomitous even.</p>
<p name="9a6e" id="9a6e" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">It’s an hours-long dogpile that beggars even my imagination, and I can imagine almost anything. Seriously, it’s all there in <a href="https://twitter.com/s_bielefeld/with_replies" data-href="https://twitter.com/s_bielefeld/with_replies" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Samantha’s Twitter Feed</a>. From what I can tell, she’s understandably shocked over it. I however was not. This one comment in her feed made me smile (warning, this wanders a bit…er…LOT. Twitter timelines are not easy to put together):</p>
<blockquote name="3271" id="3271" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">I can see why you have some reservations about publishing it, but my gut feeling is that he would take it better than Nilay.</blockquote>
<p name="ec72" id="ec72" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Oh honey, bless your sweet, ignorant heart. Marco is one of the biggest pushers of The Big Lie, and one of the reasons it is <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">such</em> a lie.</p>
<p name="5cc4" id="5cc4" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">But it gets better. First, you have the “hey, Marco <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">earned</em> his status!” lot. A valid point, and one Bielefeld explicitly acknowledges, here:</p>
<blockquote name="4e5f" id="4e5f" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">From his ground floor involvement in Tumblr (for which he is now a millionaire), to the creation and sale of a wildly successful app called Instapaper, he has become a household name in technology minded circles. It is this extensive time spent in the spotlight, the huge following on Twitter, and dedicated listeners of his weekly aired Accidental Tech Podcast, that has granted him the freedom to break from seeking revenue in more traditional manners.</blockquote>
<p name="cee9" id="cee9" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">and here:</p>
<blockquote name="3f1b" id="3f1b" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">I’m not knocking his success, he has put effort into his line of work, and has built his own life.</blockquote>
<p name="e527" id="e527" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">and here:</p>
<blockquote name="3e4f" id="3e4f" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">He has earned his time in the spotlight, and it’s only natural for him to take advantage of it.</blockquote>
<p name="8a01" id="8a01" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">But still, you get the people telling her something she already acknowledge:</p>
<blockquote name="7685" id="7685" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">I don’t think he’s blind. he’s worked to where he has gotten and has had failures like everyone else.</blockquote>
<p name="b151" id="b151" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Thank you for restating something in the article. To the person who wrote it.</p>
<p name="87bc" id="87bc" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">In the original article, Samantha talked about the money Marco makes from his podcast. She based that on the numbers <a href="http://atp.fm/sponsor/" data-href="http://atp.fm/sponsor/" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">provided by ATP in terms of sponsorship rates</a> and the number of current sponsors the podcast has. Is this going to yield perfect numbers? No. But the numbers you get from it will at least be reasonable, or should be unless the published sponsorship rates are just fantasy, and you’re stupid for taking them seriously.</p>
<p name="dbda" id="dbda" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">At first, she went with a simple formula:</p>
<blockquote name="1b4e" id="1b4e" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">$4K x 3 per episode = $12K x 52 weeks / 3 hosts splitting it.</blockquote>
<p name="0b33" id="0b33" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">That’s not someone making shit up, right? Rather quickly, someone pointed out that she’d made an error in how she calculated it:</p>
<blockquote name="76d7" id="76d7" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">That’s $4k per ad, no? So more like $12–16k per episode.</blockquote>
<p name="a089" id="a089" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">She’d already realized her mistake and fixed it.</p>
<blockquote name="b369" id="b369" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">which is actually wrong, and I’m correcting now. $4,000 per sponsor, per episode! So, $210,000 per year.</blockquote>
<p name="8b3b" id="8b3b" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Again, this is based on <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">publicly available data</em> the only kind someone not part of ATP or a close friend of Arment has access to. So while her numbers may be wrong, if they are, there’s no way for her to know that. She’s basing her opinion on actual available data. Which is sadly rare.</p>
<p name="135a" id="135a" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">This becomes a huge flashpoint. You name a reason to attack her over this, people do. No really. For example, she’s not calculating his <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">income taxes correctly</em>:</p>
<blockquote name="5e7e" id="5e7e" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">especially since it isn’t his only source of income thus, not an indicator of his marginal inc. tax bracket.</blockquote>
<blockquote name="6036" id="6036" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">thus, guessing net income is more haphazard than stating approx. gross income.</blockquote>
<p name="aac1" id="aac1" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Ye Gods. She’s not doing his taxes for him, her point is invalid?</p>
<p name="600f" id="600f" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Then there’s the people who seem to have not read anything past what other people are telling them:</p>
<blockquote name="9b62" id="9b62" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">Not sure what to make of your Marco piece, to be honest. You mention his fame, whatever, but what’s the main idea here?</blockquote>
<p name="c18a" id="c18a" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Just how spoon-fed do you have to be? Have you no teeth?</p>
<p name="c445" id="c445" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Of course, Marco jumps in, and predictably, he’s snippy:</p>
<blockquote name="0c21" id="0c21" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">If you’re going to speak in precise absolutes, it’s best to first ensure that you’re correct.</blockquote>
<p name="8f8d" id="8f8d" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">If you’re going to be like that, it’s best to provide better data. Don’t get snippy when someone is going off the only data available, and is clearly open to revising based on better data.</p>
<p name="cc97" id="cc97" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Then Marco’s friends/fans get into it:</p>
<blockquote name="f9da" id="f9da" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">I really don’t understand why it’s anyone’s business</blockquote>
<p name="0094" id="0094" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Samantha is trying to qualify for sainthood at this point:</p>
<blockquote name="0105" id="0105" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">It isn’t really, it was a way of putting his income in context in regards to his ability to gamble with Overcast.</blockquote>
<p name="cdd1" id="cdd1" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Again, she’s trying to drag people back to her actual point, but no one is going to play. The storm has begun. Then we get people who are just spouting nonsense:</p>
<blockquote name="f56c" id="f56c" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">Why is that only relevant for him? It’s a pretty weird metric,especially since his apps aren’t free.</blockquote>
<p name="4fef" id="4fef" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Wha?? Overcast 2 is absolutely free. Samantha points this out:</p>
<blockquote name="0f36" id="0f36" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">His app is free, that’s what sparked the article to begin with.</blockquote>
<p name="40d2" id="40d2" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">The response is literally a parallel to “How can there be global warming if it snowed today in my town?”</p>
<blockquote name="6760" id="6760" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">If it’s free, how have I paid for it? Twice?</blockquote>
<p name="7b13" id="7b13" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">She is still trying:</p>
<blockquote name="44ba" id="44ba" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">You paid $4.99 to unlock functionality in Overcast 1.0 and you chose to support him with no additional functionality in 2.0</blockquote>
<p name="2152" id="2152" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">He is having none of it. IT SNOWED! SNOWWWWWWW!</p>
<blockquote name="99a6" id="99a6" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">Yes. That’s not free. Free is when you choose not to make money. And that can be weaponized. But that’s not what Overcast does.</blockquote>
<p name="5e6f" id="5e6f" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">She however, is relentless:</p>
<blockquote name="1b0f" id="1b0f" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">No, it’s still free. You can choose to support it, you are required to pay $4.99 for Pocket Casts. Totally different model.</blockquote>
<p name="d24f" id="d24f" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Dude seems to give up. (Note: allllll the people bagging on her are men. All of them. Mansplaining like hell. And I’d bet every one of them considers themselves a feminist.)</p>
<p name="10e1" id="10e1" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">We get another guy trying to push the narrative she’s punishing him for his success, which is just…it’s stupid, okay? Stupid.</p>
<blockquote name="9b01" id="9b01" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">It also wasn’t my point in writing my piece today, but it seems to be everyone’s focus.</blockquote>
<p name="340c" id="340c" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">(UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE YEAR)</p>
<blockquote name="7244" id="7244" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">I think the focus should be more on that fact that while it’s difficult, Marco spent years building his audience.</blockquote>
<blockquote name="ffb1" id="ffb1" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">It doesn’t matter what he makes it how he charges. If the audience be earned is willing to pay for it, awesome.</blockquote>
<p name="e44e" id="e44e" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">She tries, oh lord, she tries:</p>
<blockquote name="a502" id="a502" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">To assert that he isn’t doing anything any other dev couldn’t, is wrong. It’s successful because it’s Marco.</blockquote>
<p name="7dcd" id="7dcd" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">But no, HE KNOWS HER POINT BETTER THAN SHE DOES:</p>
<blockquote name="a62a" id="a62a" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">No, it’s successful because he busted his ass to make it so. It’s like any other business. He grew it.</blockquote>
<p name="df8c" id="df8c" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Christ. This is like a field of strawmen. Stupid ones. Very stupid ones.</p>
<p name="521a" id="521a" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">One guy tries to blame it all on Apple, another in a string of Wha??? moments:</p>
<blockquote name="d80d" id="d80d" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">the appropriate context is Apple’s App Store policies. Other devs aren’t Marco’s responsibility</blockquote>
<p name="db0b" id="db0b" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Seriously? Dude, are you even trying to talk about what Samantha actually wrote? At this point, Samantha is clearly mystified at the entire thing:</p>
<blockquote name="7a78" id="7a78" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">Why has the conversation suddenly turned to focus on nothing more than ATP sponsorship income?</blockquote>
<p name="6e09" id="6e09" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Because it’s a nit they can pick and allows them to ignore everything you wrote. That’s the only reason.</p>
<p name="b7db" id="b7db" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">One guy is “confused”:</p>
<blockquote name="3626" id="3626" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">I see. He does have clout, so are you saying he’s too modest in how he sees himself as a dev?</blockquote>
<blockquote name="9daa" id="9daa" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">Yes. He can’t be equated to the vast majority of other developers. Like calling Gruber, “just another blogger”.</blockquote>
<blockquote name="f6da" id="f6da" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">Alright, that’s fair. I was just confused by the $ and fame angle at first.</blockquote>
<p name="d5b1" id="d5b1" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Samantha’s point centers on the benefits Marco gains via his fame and background. <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">HOW DO YOU NOT MENTION THAT? HOW IS THAT CONFUSING?</em></p>
<p name="58d0" id="58d0" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">People of course are telling her it’s her fault for mentioning a salient fact at all:</p>
<blockquote name="30d2" id="30d2" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">Why has the conversation suddenly turned to focus on nothing more than ATP sponsorship income?</blockquote>
<blockquote name="765b" id="765b" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">Maybe because you went there with your article?</blockquote>
<blockquote name="61fe" id="61fe" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">As a way of rationalizing his ability to gamble with the potential for Overcast to generate income…not the norm at all.</blockquote>
<p name="f17c" id="f17c" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Of course, had she not brought up those important points, she’d have been bagged on for “not providing proof”. Lose some, lose more. By now, she’s had enough and she just deletes all mention of it. Understandable, but sad she was bullied into doing that.</p>
<p name="0b60" id="0b60" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Yes, bullied. That’s all this is. Bullying. She didn’t lie, cheat, or exaagerate. If her numbers were wrong, they weren’t wrong in a way she had any ability to do anything about. But there’s blood in the water, and the comments and attacks get worse:</p>
<blockquote name="65ab" id="65ab" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">Because you decided to start a conversation about someone else’s personal shit. You started this war.</blockquote>
<p name="1adb" id="1adb" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">War. THIS. IS. WAR.</p>
<p name="de94" id="de94" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">This is a bunch of nerds attacking someone for reasoned, calm, <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">polite</em> criticism of their friend/idol. Samantha is politely pushing back a bit:</p>
<blockquote name="4458" id="4458" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">That doesn’t explain why every other part of my article is being pushed aside.</blockquote>
<p name="aeac" id="aeac" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">She’s right. This is all nonsense. This is people ignoring her article completely, just looking for things to attack so it can be dismissed. It’s tribalism at its purest.</p>
<p name="0078" id="0078" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Then some of the other annointed get into it, including Jason Snell in one of the most spectactular displays of “I have special knowledge you can’t be expected to have, therefore you are totally off base and wrong, even though there’s no way for you to know this” I’ve seen in a while. Jason:</p>
<blockquote name="c4c9" id="c4c9" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">You should never use an ad rate card to estimate ad revenue from any media product ever.</blockquote>
<blockquote name="b66b" id="b66b" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">I learned this when I started working for a magazine — rate cards are mostly fiction, like prices on new cars</blockquote>
<p name="6907" id="6907" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">How…exactly…in the name of whatever deity Jason may believe in…is Samantha or anyone not “in the biz” supposed to know this. Also, what exactly does a magazine on paper like Macworld have to do with sponsorships for a podcast? I have done podcasts that were sponsored, and I can retaliate with “we charged what the rate card said we did. <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">Checkmate Elitests!</em>”</p>
<p name="41ec" id="41ec" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Samantha basically abases herself at his feet:</p>
<blockquote name="0b14" id="0b14" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">I understand my mistake, and it’s unfortunate that it has completely diluted the point of my article.</blockquote>
<p name="590f" id="590f" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">I think she should have told him where and how to stuff that nonsense, but she’s a nicer person than I am. Also, it’s appropriate that Jason’s twitter avatar has its nose in the air. This is some rank snobbery. It’s disgusting and if anyone pulled that on him, Jason would be very upset. But hey, one cannot criticize The Marco without getting pushback. By “pushback”, I mean “an unrelenting fecal flood”.</p>
<p name="69dc" id="69dc" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Her only mistake was criticizing one of the Kool Kids. Folks, if you criticize anyone in The Deck Clique, or their friends, expect the same thing, regardless of tone or point.</p>
<p name="5ab4" id="5ab4" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Another App Dev, seemingly unable to parse Samantha’s words, needs <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">more</em> explanation:</p>
<blockquote name="957b" id="957b" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">so just looking over your mentions, I’m curious what exactly was your main point? Ignoring the podcast income bits.</blockquote>
<p name="0a7e" id="0a7e" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Oh wait, he didn’t even read the article. Good on you, Dev Guy, good. on. you. Still, she plays nice <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">with someone who didn’t even read her article</em>:</p>
<blockquote name="f7db" id="f7db" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">That a typical unknown developer can’t depend on patronage to generate revenue, and charging for apps will become a negative.</blockquote>
<p name="937f" id="937f" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Marco comes back of course, and now basically accuses her of lying about other devs talking to her and supporting her point:</p>
<blockquote name="c9dd" id="c9dd" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">How many actual developers did you hear from, really? Funny how almost nobody wants to give a (real) name on these accusations.</blockquote>
<p name="c522" id="c522" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Really? You’re going to do that? “There’s no name, so I don’t think it’s a real person.” Just…what’s the Joe Welch quote from the McCarthy hearings?</p>
<blockquote name="907e" id="907e" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator. You’ve done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?</blockquote>
<p name="2158" id="2158" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">That is what this is at this point: character assasination because she said something critical of A Popular Person. It’s disgusting. Depressing and disgusting. No one, none of these people have seriously discussed her point, heck, it looks like they barely bothered to read it, if they did at all.</p>
<p name="13f8" id="13f8" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Marco starts getting really petty with her (no big shock) and Samantha finally starts pushing back:</p>
<blockquote name="96c6" id="96c6" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">Glad to see you be the bigger person and ignore the mindset of so many developers not relating to you, good for you!</blockquote>
<p name="5d3f" id="5d3f" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">That of course, is what caused Marco to question the validity, if not the existence of her sources. (Funny how anonymous sources are totes okay when they convenience Marco et al, and work for oh, <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">Apple</em>, but when they are inconvenient? Ha! PROVIDE ME PROOF YOU INTEMPERATE WOMAN!)</p>
<p name="c07c" id="c07c" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Make no mistake, there’s some sexist shit going on here. Every tweet I’ve quoted was authored by a guy.</p>
<p name="8b32" id="8b32" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Of course, Marco has to play the “I’ve been around longer than you” card with this bon mot:</p>
<blockquote name="de26" id="de26" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">Yup, before you existed!</blockquote>
<p name="a3bd" id="a3bd" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Really dude? I mean, I’m sorry about the penis, but really?</p>
<p name="1c51" id="1c51" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Mind you, when the criticism isn’t just bizarrely stupid, Samantha reacts the way Marco and his ilk claim they would to (if they ever got any <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">valid</em> criticism. Which clearly is impossible):</p>
<blockquote name="9848" id="9848" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">Not to get into the middle of this, but “income” is not the term you’re looking for. “Revenue” is.</blockquote>
<blockquote name="f2a6" id="f2a6" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">lol. Noted.</blockquote>
<blockquote name="aed9" id="aed9" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">And I wasn’t intending to be a dick, just a lot of people hear/say “income” when they intend “revenue”, and then discussion …</blockquote>
<blockquote name="f9d8" id="f9d8" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">… gets derailed by a jedi handwave of “Expenses”. But outside of charitable donation, it is all directly related.</blockquote>
<blockquote name="f61c" id="f61c" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">haha. Thank you for the clarification.</blockquote>
<p name="5dd9" id="5dd9" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Note to Marco and the other…whatever they are…that is how one reacts to that kind of criticism. With a bit of humor and self-deprecation. You should try it sometime. For real, not just in your heads or conversations in Irish Pubs in S.F.</p>
<p name="dc44" id="dc44" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">But now, the door has been cracked, and the cheap shots come out:</p>
<blockquote name="0c94" id="0c94" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">@testflight_app: Don’t worry guys, we process <a href="https://twitter.com/marcoarment" data-href="https://twitter.com/marcoarment" class="markup--anchor markup--blockquote-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@marcoarment</a>’s apps in direct proportion to his megabucks earnings. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/fairelephant?src=hash" data-href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/fairelephant?src=hash" class="markup--anchor markup--blockquote-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#fairelephant</a></blockquote>
<p name="343b" id="343b" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">(Note: testflight_app is a parody account. Please do not mess with the actual testflight folks. They are still cool.)</p>
<p name="09bf" id="09bf" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Or this…conversation:</p>
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<p name="f2a3" id="f2a3" class="graf graf--p graf-after--figure">Good job guys. Good job. Defend the tribe. Attack the other. Frederico attempts to recover from his stunning display of demeaning douchery: <a href="https://twitter.com/viticci" data-href="https://twitter.com/viticci" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">‏@viticci</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/s_bielefeld" data-href="https://twitter.com/s_bielefeld" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@s_bielefeld</a> I don’t know if it’s an Italian thing, but counting other people’s money is especially weird for me. IMO, bad move in the post.</p>
<p name="ae0c" id="ae0c" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Samantha is clearly sick of his crap: <a href="https://twitter.com/s_bielefeld" data-href="https://twitter.com/s_bielefeld" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">‏@s_bielefeld</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/viticci" data-href="https://twitter.com/viticci" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@viticci</a> That’s what I’m referring to, the mistake of ever having mentioned it. So, now, Marco can ignore the bigger issue and go on living.</p>
<p name="2047" id="2047" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Good for her. There’s being patient and being roadkill.</p>
<p name="4139" id="4139" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Samantha does put the call out for her sources to maybe let her use their names:</p>
<blockquote name="6626" id="6626" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">From all of you I heard from earlier, anyone care to go on record?</blockquote>
<p name="8a7d" id="8a7d" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">My good friend, The Angry Drunk points out the obvious problem:</p>
<blockquote name="68c9" id="68c9" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">Nobody’s going to go on record when they count on Marco’s friends for their PR.</blockquote>
<p name="317d" id="317d" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">This is true. Again, the sites that are Friends of Marco:</p>
<p name="9523" id="9523" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Daring Fireball</p>
<p name="dbc7" id="dbc7" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">The Loop</p>
<p name="c706" id="c706" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">SixColors</p>
<p name="0acb" id="0acb" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">iMore</p>
<p name="8c8c" id="8c8c" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">MacStories</p>
<p name="643e" id="643e" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">A few others, but I want this post to end one day.</p>
<p name="6b76" id="6b76" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">You piss that crew off, and given how petty rather a few of them have demonstrated they are, good luck on getting any kind of notice from them.</p>
<p name="f7d1" id="f7d1" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Of course, the idea this could happen is just craycray:</p>
<blockquote name="de59" id="de59" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p"><a href="https://twitter.com/KevinColeman" data-href="https://twitter.com/KevinColeman" class="markup--anchor markup--blockquote-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@KevinColeman </a><a href="https://twitter.com/Angry_Drunk" data-href="https://twitter.com/Angry_Drunk" class="markup--anchor markup--blockquote-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">.@Angry_Drunk</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/s_bielefeld" data-href="https://twitter.com/s_bielefeld" class="markup--anchor markup--blockquote-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@s_bielefeld</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/marcoarment" data-href="https://twitter.com/marcoarment" class="markup--anchor markup--blockquote-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@marcoarment</a> Wow, you guys are veering right into crazy conspiracy theory territory. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JetFuelCantMeltSteelBeams?src=hash" data-href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JetFuelCantMeltSteelBeams?src=hash" class="markup--anchor markup--blockquote-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#JetFuelCantMeltSteelBeams</a></blockquote>
<p name="f01b" id="f01b" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Yeah. Because a mature person like Marco would never do anything like that.</p>
<p name="7e30" id="7e30" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Of course, the real point on this is starting to happen:</p>
<blockquote name="5d93" id="5d93" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">you’re getting a lot of heat now but happy you are writing things that stir up the community. Hope you continue to be a voice!</blockquote>
<blockquote name="436b" id="436b" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">I doubt I will.</blockquote>
<p name="ac25" id="ac25" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">See, they’ve done their job. Mess with the bull, you get the horns. Maybe you should find another thing to write about, this isn’t a good place for you. <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">Great</em> job y’all.</p>
<p name="07ba" id="07ba" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Some people aren’t even pretending. They’re just in full strawman mode:</p>
<blockquote name="3d60" id="3d60" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p"><a href="https://twitter.com/timkeller" data-href="https://twitter.com/timkeller" class="markup--anchor markup--blockquote-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@timkeller: </a>Unfair to begrudge a person for leveraging past success, especially when that success is earned. No ‘luck’ involved.</blockquote>
<blockquote name="87f5" id="87f5" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote"><a href="https://twitter.com/s_bielefeld" data-href="https://twitter.com/s_bielefeld" class="markup--anchor markup--blockquote-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@s_bielefeld: </a><a href="https://twitter.com/timkeller" data-href="https://twitter.com/timkeller" class="markup--anchor markup--blockquote-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@timkeller</a> I plainly stated that I don’t hold his doing this against him. Way to twist words.</blockquote>
<p name="3720" id="3720" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">I think she’s earned her anger at this point.</p>
<p name="7341" id="7341" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Don’t worry, Marco knows what the real problem is: most devs just suck —</p>
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<p name="503d" id="503d" class="graf graf--p graf-after--figure">I have a saying that applies in this case: don’t place your head so far up your nethers that you go full Klein Bottle. Marco has gone full Klein Bottle. (To be correct, he went FKB some years ago.)</p>
<p name="b8c0" id="b8c0" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">There are some bright spots. My favorite is when Building Twenty points out the <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">real</em> elephant in the room:</p>
<blockquote name="36f4" id="36f4" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p"><a href="https://twitter.com/BuildingTwenty" data-href="https://twitter.com/BuildingTwenty" class="markup--anchor markup--blockquote-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@BuildingTwenty</a>: Both <a href="https://twitter.com/s_bielefeld" data-href="https://twitter.com/s_bielefeld" class="markup--anchor markup--blockquote-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@s_bielefeld</a> &amp; I wrote similar critiques of <a href="https://twitter.com/marcoarment" data-href="https://twitter.com/marcoarment" class="markup--anchor markup--blockquote-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@marcoarment</a>’s pricing model yet the Internet pilloried only the woman. Who’d have guessed?</blockquote>
<p name="06b9" id="06b9" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Yup.</p>
<p name="eff9" id="eff9" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Another bright spot are these comments from Ian Betteridge, who has been doing this <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">even longer than Marco</em>:</p>
<blockquote name="18f1" id="18f1" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">You know, any writer who has never made a single factual error in a piece hasn’t ever written anything worth reading.</blockquote>
<blockquote name="9776" id="9776" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">I learned my job with the support of people who helped me. Had I suffered an Internet pile on for every error I wouldn’t have bothered.</blockquote>
<p name="8d44" id="8d44" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">To which Samantha understandably replies:</p>
<blockquote name="7147" id="7147" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">and it’s honestly something I’m contemplating right now, whether to continue…</blockquote>
<p name="e0cd" id="e0cd" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">Gee, I can’t imagine why. Why with comments like this from Chris Breen that completely misrepresent Samantha’s point, (who until today, I would have absolutely defended as being better than this, something I am genuinely saddened to be wrong about), why wouldn’t she want to continue doing this?</p>
<blockquote name="a379" id="a379" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">If I have this right, some people are outraged that a creator has decided to give away his work.</blockquote>
<p name="f026" id="f026" class="graf graf--p graf-after--blockquote">No Chris, you don’t have this right. But hey, who has time to find out the real issue and read an article. I’m sure your friends told you everything you need to know.</p>
<p name="e1c2" id="e1c2" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Noted Feminist Glenn Fleishman gets a piece of the action too:</p>
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<p name="4df8" id="4df8" class="graf graf--p graf-after--figure">I’m not actually surprised here. I watched Fleishman berate a friend of mine who has been an engineer for…heck, waaaaay too long on major software products in the most condescending way because she tried to point out that as a <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">very</em> technical woman, “The Magazine” literally had nothing to say to her and maybe he should fix that. “Impertinent” was I believe what he called her, but I may have the specific word wrong. Not the attitude mind you. Great Feminists like Glenn do not like uppity women criticizing Great Feminists who are their Great Allies.</p>
<p name="bf45" id="bf45" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p graf--trailing">Great Feminists are often tools.</p>
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<p name="45bb" id="45bb" class="graf graf--p graf--leading">Luckily, I hope, the people who get Samantha’s point also started chiming in (and you get 100% of the women commenting here that I’ve seen):</p>
<blockquote name="c053" id="c053" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--p">I don’t think he’s wrong for doing it, he just discusses it as if the market’s a level playing field — it isn’t</blockquote>
<blockquote name="7b5e" id="7b5e" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">This is a great article with lots of great points about the sustainability of iOS development. Thank you for publishing it.</blockquote>
<blockquote name="a321" id="a321" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">Regardless of the numbers and your view of MA, fair points here about confirmation bias in app marketing feasibility <a href="http://t.co/u79ZLsnhdM" data-href="http://t.co/u79ZLsnhdM" class="markup--anchor markup--blockquote-anchor" title="http://samanthabielefeld.com/the-elephant-in-the-room" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://samanthabielefeld.com/the-elephant-in-the-room …</a></blockquote>
<blockquote name="76fe" id="76fe" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">thank you for posting this, it covers a lot of things people don’t like to talk about.</blockquote>
<blockquote name="bf90" id="bf90" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote">I’m sure you have caught untold amounts of flak over posting this because Marco is blind to his privilege as a developer.</blockquote>
<blockquote name="0f66" id="0f66" class="graf graf--blockquote graf-after--blockquote graf--trailing">Catching up on the debate, and agreeing with Harry’s remark. (Enjoyed your article, Samantha, and ‘got’ your point.)</blockquote>
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<p name="6134" id="6134" class="graf graf--p graf--leading">I would like to say I’m surprised at the reaction to Samantha’s article, but I’m not. In spite of his loud declarations of support for The Big Lie, Marco Arment is as bad at any form of criticism that he hasn’t already approved as a very insecure tween. An example from 2011: <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/marco-arment-2011-9" data-href="http://www.businessinsider.com/marco-arment-2011-9" class="markup--anchor markup--p-anchor" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://www.businessinsider.com/marco-arment-2011-9</a></p>
<p name="ba3c" id="ba3c" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Marco is great with criticism as long as it never actually criticizes him. If it does, be prepared a flood of petty, petulant whining that a room full of bored preschoolers on a hot day would be hard-pressed to match.</p>
<p name="a5a0" id="a5a0" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Today has been…well, it sucks. It sucks because someone doing what all the Arments of the world claim to want was naive enough to believe what they were told, and found out the hard way just how big a lie The Big Lie is, and how vicious people are when you’re silly enough to believe anything they say about criticism.</p>
<p name="2a25" id="2a25" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">And note again, every single condescending crack, misrepresentation, and strawman had an exclusively male source. Most of them have, at one point or another, loudly trumpted themselves as Feminist Allies, as a friend to women struggling with the sexism and misogyny in tech. Congratulations y’all on being just as bad as the people you claim to oppose.</p>
<p name="a47a" id="a47a" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">Samantha has handled this better than anyone else could have. My respect for her as a person and a writer is off the charts. If she choses to walk away from blogging in the Apple space, <em class="markup--em markup--p-em">believe me</em> I understand. As bad as today was for her, I’ve seen worse. Much worse.</p>
<p name="aa8e" id="aa8e" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">But I hope she doesn’t. I hope she stays, because she is Doing This Right, and in a corner of the internet that has become naught but an endless circle jerk, a cliquish collection, a churlish, childish cohort interested not in writing or the truth, but in making sure The Right People are elevated, and The Others put down, she is someone worth reading and listening to. The number people who owe her apologies goes around the block, and I don’t think she’ll ever see a one. I’m sure as heck not apologizing for them, I’ll not make their lives easier in the least.</p>
<p name="34c5" id="34c5" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p">All of you, all. of. you…Marco, Breen, Snell, Vittici, had a chance to live by your words. You were faced with reasoned, polite, respectful criticism and instead of what you should have done, you all dropped trou and sprayed an epic diarrheal discharge all over someone who had done nothing to deserve it. Me, I earned most of my aggro, Samantha did not earn any of the idiocy I’ve seen today. I hope you’re all proud of yourselves. Someone should be, it won’t be me. Ever.</p>
<p name="9710" id="9710" class="graf graf--p graf-after--p graf--trailing">So I hope she stays, but if she goes, I understand. For what it’s worth, I don’t think she’s wrong either way.</p>
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