diff --git a/debian/libnotcurses1.symbols b/debian/libnotcurses1.symbols
index 459c8d649..68cfe8ed3 100644
--- a/debian/libnotcurses1.symbols
+++ b/debian/libnotcurses1.symbols
@@ -51,7 +51,6 @@ libnotcurses.so.1 libnotcurses1 #MINVER#
  ncplane_gradient@Base 1.2.1
  ncplane_greyscale@Base 1.2.1
  ncplane_hline_interp@Base 1.2.1
- ncplane_mouseevent_p@Base 1.2.2
  ncplane_move_above_unsafe@Base 1.2.1
  ncplane_move_below_unsafe@Base 1.2.1
  ncplane_move_bottom@Base 1.2.1
@@ -90,6 +89,7 @@ libnotcurses.so.1 libnotcurses1 #MINVER#
  ncplane_styles_on@Base 1.2.1
  ncplane_styles_set@Base 1.2.1
  ncplane_translate@Base 1.2.2
+ ncplane_translate_abs@Base 1.2.3
  ncplane_userptr@Base 1.2.1
  ncplane_visual_open@Base 1.2.1
  ncplane_vline_interp@Base 1.2.1
diff --git a/include/ncpp/Plane.hh b/include/ncpp/Plane.hh
index 2afb918c4..ba06b733f 100644
--- a/include/ncpp/Plane.hh
+++ b/include/ncpp/Plane.hh
@@ -876,17 +876,17 @@ namespace ncpp
 			ncplane_translate (src.plane, dst.plane, y, x);
 		}
 
+		bool translate_abs (int *y = nullptr, int *x = nullptr)
+		{
+			return ncplane_translate_abs (*this, y, x);
+		}
+
 		// Upstream call doesn't take ncplane* but we put it here for parity with has_no_background below
 		bool has_no_foreground (Cell &cell) const noexcept
 		{
 			return cell.has_no_foreground ();
 		}
 
-		bool is_mouse_event (const ncinput *ni) const noexcept
-		{
-			return ncplane_mouseevent_p (plane, ni);
-		}
-
 		const char* get_extended_gcluster (Cell &cell) const noexcept
 		{
 			return cell_extended_gcluster (plane, cell);
diff --git a/include/notcurses/notcurses.h b/include/notcurses/notcurses.h
index 526cab341..93cdc2a88 100644
--- a/include/notcurses/notcurses.h
+++ b/include/notcurses/notcurses.h
@@ -328,11 +328,6 @@ API int notcurses_mouse_enable(struct notcurses* n);
 // Disable mouse events. Any events in the input queue can still be delivered.
 API int notcurses_mouse_disable(struct notcurses* n);
 
-// Was the provided mouse event 'ni' within the bounds of the ncplane 'n'? Note
-// that this doesn't necessarily mean the event affected 'n'; there could be a
-// plane above it, this plane could be transparent, etc.
-API bool ncplane_mouseevent_p(const struct ncplane* n, const struct ncinput *ni);
-
 // Refresh our idea of the terminal's dimensions, reshaping the standard plane
 // if necessary, without a fresh render. References to ncplanes (and the
 // egcpools underlying cells) remain valid following a resize operation.
@@ -414,6 +409,12 @@ API struct ncplane* ncplane_dup(struct ncplane* n, void* opaque);
 API void ncplane_translate(const struct ncplane* src, const struct ncplane* dst,
                            int* RESTRICT y, int* RESTRICT x);
 
+// Fed absolute 'y'/'x' coordinates, determine whether that coordinate is
+// within the ncplane 'n'. If not, return false. If so, return true. Either
+// way, translate the absolute coordinates relative to 'n'. If the point is not
+// within 'n', these coordinates will not be within the dimensions of the plane.
+API bool ncplane_translate_abs(const struct ncplane* n, int* RESTRICT y, int* RESTRICT x);
+
 // Returns a 16-bit bitmask of supported curses-style attributes
 // (NCSTYLE_UNDERLINE, NCSTYLE_BOLD, etc.) The attribute is only
 // indicated as supported if the terminal can support it together with color.
diff --git a/src/demo/hud.c b/src/demo/hud.c
index d325f664a..af8337950 100644
--- a/src/demo/hud.c
+++ b/src/demo/hud.c
@@ -315,6 +315,11 @@ int hud_grab(int y, int x){
     // new grab. stash point of original grab, and location of HUD at original
     // grab. any delta while grabbed (relative to the original grab point)
     // will see the HUD moved by delta (relative to the original HUD location).
+    int ty = y, tx = x;
+    // first, though, verify that we're clicking within the hud
+    if(!ncplane_translate_abs(hud, &ty, &tx)){
+      return 0;
+    }
     hud_grab_x = x;
     hud_grab_y = y;
     ncplane_yx(hud, &hud_pos_y, &hud_pos_x);
diff --git a/src/demo/input.c b/src/demo/input.c
index 00440f1f3..4be8a6682 100644
--- a/src/demo/input.c
+++ b/src/demo/input.c
@@ -76,6 +76,7 @@ handle_mouse(const ncinput* ni){
   if(ni->id != NCKEY_BUTTON1 && ni->id != NCKEY_RELEASE){
     return 0;
   }
+  int y, x;
   int ret;
   if(ni->id == NCKEY_RELEASE){
     ret = hud_release();
diff --git a/src/lib/input.c b/src/lib/input.c
index fc7b8ccb4..35ed446d8 100644
--- a/src/lib/input.c
+++ b/src/lib/input.c
@@ -491,20 +491,3 @@ int prep_special_keys(notcurses* nc){
   }
   return 0;
 }
-
-bool ncplane_mouseevent_p(const ncplane* n, const ncinput *ni){
-  // incoming coordinates are absolute and 0-indexed
-  int y = ni->y;
-  int x = ni->x;
-  ncplane_translate(ncplane_stdplane_const(n), n, &y, &x);
-  if(y < 0 || x < 0){
-    return false;
-  }
-  if(y >= n->leny){
-    return false;
-  }
-  if(x >= n->lenx){
-    return false;
-  }
-  return true;
-}
diff --git a/src/lib/menu.c b/src/lib/menu.c
index b389e287b..b851f7eb2 100644
--- a/src/lib/menu.c
+++ b/src/lib/menu.c
@@ -508,12 +508,14 @@ const char* ncmenu_selected(const ncmenu* n, ncinput* ni){
 }
 
 bool ncmenu_offer_input(ncmenu* n, const ncinput* nc){
-  if(nc->id == NCKEY_RELEASE && ncplane_mouseevent_p(n->ncp, nc)){
+  if(nc->id == NCKEY_RELEASE){
     int y, x, dimy, dimx;
     y = nc->y;
     x = nc->x;
     ncplane_dim_yx(n->ncp, &dimy, &dimx);
-    ncplane_translate(ncplane_stdplane(n->ncp), n->ncp, &y, &x);
+    if(!ncplane_translate_abs(n->ncp, &y, &x)){
+      return false;
+    }
     if(y != (n->bottom ? dimy - 1 : 0)){
       return false;
     }
diff --git a/src/lib/notcurses.c b/src/lib/notcurses.c
index 3469ae52c..5ed0d3fe3 100644
--- a/src/lib/notcurses.c
+++ b/src/lib/notcurses.c
@@ -1895,6 +1895,27 @@ void palette256_free(palette256* p){
   free(p);
 }
 
+bool ncplane_translate_abs(const ncplane* n, int* restrict y, int* restrict x){
+  ncplane_translate(ncplane_stdplane_const(n), n, y, x);
+  if(y){
+    if(*y < 0){
+      return false;
+    }
+    if(*y >= n->leny){
+      return false;
+    }
+  }
+  if(x){
+    if(*x < 0){
+      return false;
+    }
+    if(*x >= n->lenx){
+      return false;
+    }
+  }
+  return true;
+}
+
 void ncplane_translate(const ncplane* src, const ncplane* dst,
                        int* restrict y, int* restrict x){
   if(y){
diff --git a/src/lib/selector.c b/src/lib/selector.c
index 448723b7d..1edb7f61c 100644
--- a/src/lib/selector.c
+++ b/src/lib/selector.c
@@ -337,9 +337,11 @@ bool ncselector_offer_input(ncselector* n, const ncinput* nc){
   }else if(nc->id == NCKEY_SCROLL_DOWN){
     ncselector_nextitem(n);
     return true;
-  }else if(nc->id == NCKEY_RELEASE && ncplane_mouseevent_p(n->ncp, nc)){
+  }else if(nc->id == NCKEY_RELEASE){
     int y = nc->y, x = nc->x;
-    ncplane_translate(ncplane_stdplane(n->ncp), n->ncp, &y, &x);
+    if(!ncplane_translate_abs(n->ncp, &y, &x)){
+      return false;
+    }
     if(y == n->uarrowy && x == n->arrowx){
       ncselector_previtem(n);
       return true;
diff --git a/tests/ncplane.cpp b/tests/ncplane.cpp
index e66fb8d74..f6160a795 100644
--- a/tests/ncplane.cpp
+++ b/tests/ncplane.cpp
@@ -1005,7 +1005,8 @@ TEST_CASE("NCPlane") {
     int total = 0;
     for(ni.y = 0 ; ni.y < 5 ; ++ni.y){
       for(ni.x = 0 ; ni.x < 5 ; ++ni.x){
-        bool p = ncplane_mouseevent_p(n, &ni);
+        int y = ni.y, x = ni.x;
+        bool p = ncplane_translate_abs(n, &y, &x);
         if(ni.y >= 1 && ni.y <= 2 && ni.x >= 1 && ni.x <= 2){
           CHECK(p);
         }else{